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  1. King James Bible the correct version with I Cor 15:47 (and ALL others)

  2. The Millennium and the change of bodies

  3. Pastor Murray and the Shepherds Chapel. Also, the mark of the beast and the global apparatus to enforce it

  4. Jewish defector and convert to Christianity, Benjamin Freedman, on Jesus NOT being a "Jew"

  5. More on the "King James Only" Bible position

  6. Is there unrighteousness with God?

  7. Christians and self defense, should we sit back and expect God to do it all?

  8. More on Ezekiel's Kingdom not being the Millennium of Revelation 20

  9. "Old-Earth" verses "Young-Earth" controversy enables Evolutionists. And, "man-made Global Warming" is a junk "science" hoax

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King James Bible the correct version with I Cor 15:47 (and ALL others)

 

A reader (a pastor) writes:

 [WBSG Note: The below pastor is referring to our: Adulterations in the Newer Bible Versions (NIV, NASB...); Proof that the King James Bible (KJV) is the True Word of God.]

Mr. Goggin,

I was going through your website and have a brief comment. Certainly, anything we can do to encourage the study of God’s Word is a great thing to do. But you came down pretty hard on versions of the Bible such as the NIV [New International Version].  Now, I have no problem with the King James [Bible version], but I also have no problem with versions that make the word more accessible. 

You cited an example that supposedly denied the divinity of Jesus from the NIV. You used 1 Corinthians 15:47 as an example where the NIV “left out” a key statement about Jesus. The KJV reads “the second man is the Lord from Heaven” whereas the NIV omits the phrase “is the Lord”. 

This got me curious so I looked it up in the Greek. If you look at it in the originals, it says “ho (the) protos (first) anthropos (man) ek (came from) ges (earth) choikos (made of dust), ho (the) deuteros (second)  anthropos (man) ex (came from) ouranou (heaven)” 

You are accusing the NIV of leaving out Jesus’ divinity. It has not done that, it simply translated the greek as it is. My question would be why did the KJV decide to add words that weren’t there? Now, I absolutely affirm the divinity of Jesus. But I am all for accurate translations. Let the Word speak for itself, don’t add, don’t take away.  

I think you were a little harsh with the NIV unnecessarily. Or at the very least, used a poor example in your argument. 

I don’t need to get into a debate over this, I just thought I would throw this out to you so that you can see that versions like the NIV aren’t so bad. 

Your site is dedicated to studying God’s word. I think a good place to start is interacting with accurate translations. In the example you cited, the NIV is more true to the Greek. That is not the case every time, but in this case, it is. 

Take care. 

[Xxxxxx] 

[Xxxx Xxxxx]
Pastor of Student Ministries
Xxxx Xxxxxx Church
xxx Xxxx Xxxx St.
Xxxxx Xxxxx, IL xxxxx
708 xxxxxxxx
www.Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


Answer:

Hi [Xxxxx].  I only have a moment here, sorry; but I did do a screen capture of the Interlinear for your verse.  It is from BibleSoft (PC Study Bible Version 4 Reference Library + [upgraded to the new version 5]).

    What happened to you is that you looked in the manuscripts of the NIV [the Nestles text], not the manuscripts from the KJV (Textus Receptus.)  In other words, you were checking the King James version against the Mss (manuscripts) of the NIV version (New International Version).

    In the below, the Strong's numbers on the upper row are from the KJV manuscripts (Textus Receptus), and the Strong's numbers on the lower row are for the NIV manuscripts (Nestles text).  Below is a legend to help understand the Interlinear used further below:

 

    Below is a picture showing both the KJV's and the NIV's manuscript readings for I Cor 15:47.  In it you can see that the KJV did not add the words, but rather the NIV omitted them.  (The 9999#s are not words; but rather the "9999" indicates that the word did not appear in that text): 

 
 

the: Greek word #3588  ho (ho); including the feminine he (hay); and the neuter to (to); in all their inflections; the def. article [definite article - WBSG]; the (sometimes to be supplied, at others omitted, in English idiom):  KJV - the, this, that, one, he, she, it, etc..

Lord: Greek word #2962  kurios (koo'-ree-os); from kuros (supremacy); supreme in authority, i.e. (as noun) controller; by implication, Mr. (as a respectful title):  KJV - God, Lord, master, Sir. [With the definite article (The) distinguishes Lord as in God from lord as in sir, master, etc. - WBSG]

Greek "word" #9999  NOTE: inserted word (x); This word was added by the translators for better readability in the English. There is no actual word in the Greek text. The word may be displayed in italics, or in parentheses or other brackets, to indicate that it is not in the original text.

(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)

     In closing, not only does the KJV texts have the word "Lord" but they also have the Definite Article (Grk. #3588)!  Once again the King James Bible is vindicated.  Now, pastor, I have a question for you who enjoys the NIV:  How do you feel about them (Adamantius Origen in his second century recension[1] which became the base manuscript for the corrupt codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus, copied later by Nestles, etc. et al, and then finding it's way into ALL newer Bible versions other than the KJV) omitting "the Lord" from the verse?   And can really use that Bible version with confidence ever again? 

[1] Recension is the name given to the critical revision of the text of an author, or the revised text itself.  A "recension" of a Biblical manuscript is an (some) later author's CHANGING of the sacred text.  The King James Bible's manuscripts are NOT a recension, ALL other Bible versions (including the RV [Revised Version of circa 1880(date ?)] are based upon manuscripts that were recensions of the texts.  This brings to mind the somber warning, and makes a great statement AGAINST ALL newer Bible versions later than the trusted King James Bible version of 1604-1611:

Revelation 22:18-20
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.  KJV

    Stick to the time-tested, faithful, and trusted King James Bible version, and you won't go wrong.  What good thing can come from newer corrupt Bible versions that the very making of has consigned their editors and translators to hell?

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The Millennium and the change of bodies

 

A reader writes:

OK Nick, here my question...In revelation 20 it says blessed are those who have a part in the first resurrection, they will be priests of God, etc and will reign with him for 1000 years.  And the rest of the dead lived not until the 1000 years was ended. So....where are the rest of the dead in that 1000 year time?  I thought at the last trump we would all be changed and then be judged.  Please help me understand what I am missing.  Is the first resurrection only for the martyrs?  [Xxxxxx]


Answer:

Hello.  I see two problems which may be causing difficulty.  One, regarding the change of bodies at the Second Advent; and two, what happens to whom at the beginning and on into the body of the Millennial time (the 1000 years of Revelation chapter 20).

The change of bodies

    Let's first take on the change of bodies.  In 1st Thessalonians chapter four we see the Second Advent and what becomes of those faithful Christians who remained true to the Lord Jesus Christ during and through the Great Tribulation.  In that Scripture (supplied below), Paul is speaking to Christians of Christians.  He speaks not of any others (antichrists, infidels, atheists, etc.)—he is not speaking of what becomes of all men on that Second Advent, but only of all the faithful Christians; for, he addresses those that he is speaking to as "brethren", and he includes himself ( a Christian) with those whom he is speaking to when he says, "we believe that Jesus died and rose again".

    Then, speaking of the Second Advent, Paul says "the dead in Christ shall rise first".  He speaks there of the deceased who died as faithful Christians; then he goes on to speak of those fellow servants, those others who were faithful to Jesus Christ until the very end, but who had not died, who had not been martyred: "Then we which are alive and remain...".  The "we" are faithful Christians.

    He then gives them the glad news that those Christians who remain faithful to Jesus Christ during the Great Tribulation, and who have not died (naturally or by martyrdom), but rather "are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord" shall not die a flesh death at all—they shall be changed into their spiritual bodies without tasting of death, and shall forever be with the Lord.  This is the first resurrection, and finds its compliment in Revelation chapter twenty.  Observe the above Scripture we spoke of: 

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep
[dead, deceased], that ye [Christians] sorrow not, even as others [antichrists, infidels, atheists, etc.] which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again
[resurrected], even so them also which sleep in Jesus [die while faithful] will God bring with him [resurrect].
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain
[survive—Grk #4035] unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent [precede—Grk #5348] them which are asleep [dead, deceased].
16 For the Lord
[Jesus Christ] himself shall descend from heaven [Second Advent] with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise [resurrect] first:
17 Then we
[faithful and living Christians] which are alive and remain [till this Second Advent] shall be caught up [changed—*see 1st Cor below*] together with them [those who just resurrected "rise first" in vrs. 16] in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air [spirit]: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.  KJV

remain:  Greek word #4035  perileipo (per-ee-li'-po); from NT:4012 and NT:3007; to leave all around, i.e. (passively) survive:  KJV - remain.

prevent:  Greek word #5348  phthano (fthan'-o); apparently a primary verb; to be beforehand, i.e. anticipate or precede; by extension, to have arrived at:  KJV - (already) attain, come, prevent.

Those Christians who change without tasting of death

1 Corinthians 15:51-52
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We
[Christians] shall not all sleep [die, decease], but we [faithful and still alive Christians] shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead
[in Christ] shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.  KJV

changed: Greek word #236  allasso (al-las'-so); from NT:243; to make different:  KJV - change.

    In other words, at the Second Advent there shall still be living Christians on the Earth who neither died nor betrayed Christ by taking the mark of the beast, and these shall not die—they shall never die—they shall not ever experience a flesh death.  They shall simply "step out of their flesh bodies," their spiritual body (which is within us all, both good and evil, loosely referred to as "our soul") thus standing before Christ "and so shall we ever be with the Lord".

The second death different than the first (flesh) death

    These (both the dead and living in Christ) shall not taste of the second death (the death of a soul, loosely and incorrectly referred to as "going to hell", but more accurately would be called "going into the lake of fire").  This is "the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years."  (Rev 20:6b).  And after that thousand years shall come the Judgment Day, where these faithful shall be judged worthy of eternal life, and shall be partakers of the New Heaven and New Earth of Revelation 21 on through the eternity; for, "on such the second death hath no power" (Rev 20:6).

    And thus, in fulfillment of prophecy and the honorable completion of God's promise in 1st Thes 4:17, they shall "ever be with the Lord" in Heaven; the Tribulation and trials of this world being completed, "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away."  (Rev 21:4).

    How appropriate that Paul would close the 1st Thessalonians chapter four prophecy with "Wherefore comfort one another with these words." (1st Thes 4:18).  And how tragic that misguided but perhaps well meaning preachers of the Gospel would diminish such glory and great comforting words of God by calling it a "Rapture."  A Rapture, I might add, that shall never happen—never was to happen—and never was in the Holy Bible, but was rather the traditions of man forced into Scripture unnaturally.

Clearing up a confusion

    Before we move on it is necessary to clear up an important issue with the above interpretation.  It will be noted by some that in Rev 20:1-6, which speaks of the first resurrection, that those faithful (saved) Christians who died in years-gone-by are not mentioned specifically as being among those who constitute the people (souls) who partake in "This is the first resurrection" (Rev 20:5b).

    In those named in Rev 20 as partaking of the first resurrection we see two groups of Christians mentioned in Rev 20:4; those that, (1) "the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God" (the Tribulation martyrs) and those that, (2) "and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands" (those who had remained alive at the Second Advent).  And we do not see written here specifically of those faithful Christians who had died all down throughout the centuries.

    Now, in fairness I will state that some would disagree that the above two groups are even two separate groups, but rather that both Scripture segments above (1 & 2) are one long description of the same group of people (the Tribulation martyrs).  I disagree; however, that is immaterial to our present point, and would be a diversion and a source of confusion to work out here and now.  For, as I hope to show, it doesn't matter, because other Scriptures overlap and fill in the blanks.  We shall cover those Scriptures presently.

    Our dilemma is this: are the dead in Christ (those faithful Christians who had died all down throughout the centuries) resurrected in the first resurrection, or at some latter resurrection?  This is important because knowing this allows us to know whether or not the dead Christians from yesteryear are active during the thousand years of Revelation chapter twenty (the "Millennium").

    To this question we find our answer in our Second-Advent Thessalonians Scripture, where the "fate" (destination, condition) of those dearly departed of old in Christ is tied together with those who never died and who "are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord" (1 Thes 4:15).  Now, if we can agree that those Christians who "are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord," of which is said shall "ever be with the Lord" (1 Thes 4:15) in fact are always thereafter with the Lord and thus necessarily partake of the Millennium, for that is where Christ is; then we must also conclude that those dearly departed of old who died "in Christ" (i.e., as faithful saved Christians) are also in that Millennium, for that is where the deathless ones are, and once again that is where the Lord Jesus Christ is.  That the deathless ones are in the same place that the faithful dead of old are is evident: "and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever [forever and always] be with the Lord." (1 Thes 4:16b-17).

    Therefore, if these two groups of Christians are forever with the Lord from the Second Advent on into the eternity, then they are in the Millennium which comes between the Second Advent and the eternal New Heaven and New Earth of Revelation chapter 21 forward (commonly known in Christians teachings as "going to Heaven").  Read the below Scripture below again, bearing all of the above in mind:

Thessalonians 4:13-18
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep
[dead, deceased], that ye [Christians] sorrow not, even as others [antichrists, infidels, atheists, etc.] which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again
[resurrected], even so them also which sleep in Jesus [die while faithful] will God bring with him [resurrect].
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain
[survive—Grk #4035] unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent [precede—Grk #5348] them which are asleep [dead, deceased].
16 For the Lord
[Jesus Christ] himself shall descend from heaven [Second Advent] with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise [resurrect] first:
17 Then we
[faithful and living Christians] which are alive and remain [till this Second Advent] shall be caught up [changed—*see 1st Cor below*] together with them [those who just resurrected "rise first" in vrs. 16] in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air [spirit]: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.  KJV

     In conclusion on this "difficulty": It is no more a cause of concern that Paul, in the Thessalonians Scripture, makes no specific mention of the Tribulation martyrs being "ever with the Lord", than it is any cause of concern that John in the Revelation makes no specific mention of the "dead in Christ (from antiquity)" being part of the first resurrection.  Both authors spoke of the same subject—the first resurrection—and as often is the case in parallel Scriptures, one speaking more perfectly on one group of partakers, and the other speaking more perfectly on another of the groups.  In other words, the first resurrection happens at the Second Advent, and those who partake in it are "ever with the Lord" including during the immediately-following Millennium.  Else, what do we do with those "which are alive and remain" at the Second Advent?  They never died, shall we kill them so that they can resurrect after the Millennium.  Of course not.  They never die, and are forever with Jesus Christ—ergo, they are with Jesus Christ during the millennium—as are their fellow servants who resurrected when they (the deathless ones) were changed at the Second Advent.  Can anything be more clear?  If they are from that point (the Second Advent) forever with the Lord (which Scripture says they are), and if the Lord is in the Millennium, which He clearly is, then they are with Him in the Millennium and not waiting for some future resurrection.  Man is only resurrected once, but he can die twice.  Die once in the flesh and then a second death of the soul in the Lake of of Fire (fore those who do not overcome).  And while there is more than one resurrection, every soul only goes through one of them, they just do it at different times.  "And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth [die] shall awake [resurrect], some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." (Dan 12:2).

    Finally, regarding omissions in the lists of with-Christ/Millennium partakers:

    Nowhere in either the Thessalonians Scripture not the Revelation Scripture does the Holy Spirit announce that He is giving an exhaustive (complete) list.  So that what we have here is another great witness (Thessalonians by Paul and Revelation by John) to the single Author of the Bible—our Heavenly Father.  For He, writing through many human authors and paper  epistles, spread His whole message between and across the several books of the Bible—no single book or author possessing the whole message, and none able to stand alone as complete; so that none of them can be defamed by the wicked one and their work cast aside by intelligent readers.  One can't understand the book of Revelation apart from the rest of God's Bible, both the Old and the New Testaments.

Moving on...

    Now that we have looked at the first resurrection from its beginning as it will happen, now let us look at it as it completes and moves further in time into the thousand years that we refer to as "the Millennium" (millennium means 1000 years).

Revelation 20:1-6
20 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

    The above events transpire at the Second Advent, which we just looked at in the Thessalonians Scripture; but these events above occur in a different location than the gathering to Christ of His faithful (which we saw in 1st Thessalonians).  Also notice that while Christ Jesus comes directly for His own, it is angels of God who deal with antichrist (satan).  Continuing the above Scripture we see the principle actors in the Millennium:

Revelation 20:1-6 [continued]
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God
[Tribulation martyrs], and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands [those deathless faithful "who are alive and remain" at 2nd Advent]; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection
["...the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them...." (1st Thes 4:16b-17a)]: on such the second death [accomplished in the Lake of Fire] hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.  KJV

    The second death is the death of a soul.  It is the final destination of the damned.  They are not tortured for an eternity as so many medieval paintings depict, for they are now at this time in their spiritual bodies which do not respond to pain (as witnessed in Nebuchadnezzar's furnace).  The Lake of Fire is what most Christians think that "hell" is; that is to say, the destination of those who do not "go to Heaven."

    That the final end of the unsaved and unredeemed is not "hell" is easily witnessed by the fact that even hell itself is cast into the Lake of Fire before the eternity begins.  Thus, there can be no eternal hell; for, even "hell" (which means the grave; i.e., death) is destroyed in the Lake of Fire.  So we see that even death can die ("The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death." [1st Cor 15:26]), and that in the eternity "there shall be no more death" (Rev 21:4), for it is no more; i.e., it "dies" (ends, completion, is no more, etc.).

Revelation 20:14-15
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.  KJV

Revelation 21:8
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.  KJV

    Please let me know if I missed something that you were asking about.

    Peace to you in Christ Jesus.
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Pastor Murray and the Shepherds Chapel. Also, the mark of the beast and the global apparatus to enforce it

 

A reader writes:

Subject: Shepherds Chapel
Hi

I read you have "minor" disagreements with the Chapel.  Do you have a link with your differences?

I found a couple:

-   Unforgivable Sin - Christians Physically Die during Trib - Mark of the Beast is a chip and Spiritual -


Is there more differences?

Thanks

[Xxxxxx]


Answer:

Hello [Xxxxx].  I could add to your list: his interpretation of "born again," his "our brother Judah" doctrine, his "5 month total Tribulation time," and an "Ezekiel 44 Millennium"; but I don't want to turn into a critic of pastor Murray, as he is the best out there on TV.  But those would cover the main ones; and none of those are salvation doctrines, they are not spiritually imperative nor interfere with the saving of souls. 

    I will only say this: I agree with pastor Murray on all important salvation doctrine, and I disagree with him on some points (as evidenced in my writings) related to prophecy matters.  And while I did not say that the mark of the beast is necessarily a (computer) chip, I did say that it will be something identifiable.  I base that on the fact that "they" shall know if you are one who is allowed to "buy and sell," and they shall know if you are one who hasn't yet taken the mark, whereby they can deliver you to the (soon to be, Judaic-run) councils for conversion (to antichrist/satan) or death.  So, how will they know, if there is not a visible or detectable mark in/on you?  Are they going to divine it?  Nope, they shall see/detect it. 

    Why do I identify these councils as Judaic?  Well, for one, Christ more than hinted at who would be the ultimate persecutors of Christians in the Tribulation; and, the current world-wide "Hate Crime" / "AntiSemitism" / "Holocaust Denial" laws that are being instituted near and far (we even have in American government a global AntiSemitism office!) is the framework for the global apparatus that shall morph and eventually become the body that will be utilized to enforce totalitarian compliance with the receiving of the mark of the beast.  You are free to disagree with that position.  To that I would say to you: "Just watch."  I need not prove it—they themselves are proving it for me, if one would only look. 

    Pastor Murray is great Bible teacher, it is through his ministry that I began my own study of God's written Word, and he has taken Bible deeper study further than any of his peers, should he even have any peers nowadays.  And he has done what few others have done, he has taught his students how to do their own studies.  However, like all men—and like my favorite, E.W. Bullinger—he isn't perfect (nor does he claim to be, I might insert).

    Please allow me to close this E-mail with the words of that favorite of mine Bible teacher, Ethelbert Bullinger (deceased a century ago):

"None are more cognizant of imperfection and failure than ourselves; and, after all we have done, there is still much left for others to do.

 

       We do not exhaust the book; and may, after all, have only laid out a road on which others may follow with far greater success.  We claim only one thing - an earnest desire to believe God; and to receive what He has said, regardless alike of the praise of man or the fear of man; and quite apart from all traditional beliefs or interpretations.

 

       May the Lord own and use and bless our efforts for His own Glory and the good of His people."

-- E.W. Bullinger, The Apocalypse, pg. xii (as quoted in E.W. Bullinger, A Biography, ppg. 233-234).

    Peace to you in Christ Jesus.

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The reader replies:

[Emphasis in the original - WBSG]

Hi Nick,

I think you should create a link of all of your disagreements to the "minor" mention on your statements of belief page. 

With regards to Ezekiel 44:

Ezekiel himself said it was a VISION (40:2).
This VISION took place after the destruction of Jerusalem;
therefore, it must be a future TEMPLE, he so diligently describes.

It is plainly stated in the scriptures.  Do you believe Ezekiel? 

I realize the thoughts I have expressed here may be discredited because I am a woman. 

If that is so, then so be it. 

Remember, it was a woman who carried the Son of God into this world, and she was a very good scholar indeed, as she quoted verse by verse, thought by thought the Prayer of Hannah (the mother of Samuel). 

[Xxxxxx]

A Watch-WOMB-man


Answer:

Hello [Xxxx].  My, my, aren't we all wound up?  I have no problem with women watching for the signs of the times.  Neither did Paul in God's Word, they just aren't supposed to be over and leading men, especially in the churches.  So you can be a watchmen to.  I implied no gender in naming this Watchmen Bible Study Group.  As you know, often times the male gender term is used to include women, such as in the designation "mankind."  Let's not get all Feminist here, please.  You might be surprised to know that the supporters of Watchmen Bible Study Group are about half male and half female, so I don't think that I am coming-off as being anti-women on the Website.  I just supply the Scriptures and let women take their place as their conscience dictates. 

    Regarding your above quote, I have some detailed work on the matter that I will direct you to.  I couldn't do the subject justice in a short E-mail, and why re-write it anyway?  But in answer to your question: of course I believe Ezekiel, as I do all the prophets of God.  When a prophet speaks and writes, he speaks and writes the words of God. That, by the way, stripped of all else, is the purist definition of the word prophet—one who speaks God's words.  But you are not rightly dividing, as you shall shortly discover if you choose to read my below articles. 

    So here you go, fellow watchmen:

   [Xxxxxxx], I deduce that you are an ardent supporter of pastor Murray.  So too am I.  However, I will part opinion with any man at the exact place and time where his teaching contradicts clear Scripture.  Now, that does not mean that I will throw away a man who makes a mistake; but it does mean that I will side with God where man and God disagree.  Pastor Murray is a great old guy, and I respect him greatly.  In fact, for whatever it may or may not be worth to you, it is deeply painful for me to have to disagree with the man publicly, as I have learned so much from him.  But for me, it all and always comes back to loyalty and fidelity—loyalty to God and fidelity to the truth. 

    Now, perhaps I may be the mistaken party, and pastor Murray the correct; but you will never find that out until you do Scriptural investigation for yourself.  I stand on my studies as sound doctrine, I always post Scriptural documentation for my positions.  And if and where I can be shown through Scripture where I am wrong on a matter, I would come forward and change my position Biblically on that matter.  I am not so burdened, as is pastor Murray, to be perfect.  You all truly do expect too much from the man.  No man, save for Christ, was ever perfect.  My favorite Bible teacher and most true servant of Christ Jesus, E.W. Bullinger, believed in the Rapture hoax, knew nothing of the two creation events, was oblivious to the identity of Cain's father, etc.  Apostle Paul had to publicly correct and admonish Apostle Peter.  Why hold pastor Murray to a higher standard than any other man on the planet? 

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Jewish defector and convert to Christianity, Benjamin Freedman, on Jesus NOT being a "Jew"


A reader writes:

Greetings

And compliments fro your informative site

Could you give me any references that either confirm or deny that Jesus was in fact Jewish?

Many thanks

[X. X. X.]


Answer:

Hello; Jesus was definitely NOT a Jew as we reckon "Jews" today.  Below is an article by a Jewish convert to Christianity: 

    Below are some free E-books on our Website from the same above author.  This should get you more than started. 

Two Works By Benjamin H. Freedman, Jewish Defector (Jewish convert to Christianity):

   A Jewish Defector Warns America by Benjamin H. Freedman

   Facts Are Facts by Benjamin H. Freedman

NOTE ON AUTHOR:     Benjamin H. Freedman was one of the most intriguing and amazing individuals of the 20th century. Mr. Freedman, born in 1890, was a successful Jewish businessman of New York City who was at one time the principal owner of the Woodbury Soap Company. He broke with organized Jewry after the Judeo-Communist victory of 1945, and spent the remainder of his life and the great preponderance of his considerable fortune, at least 2.5 million dollars, exposing the Jewish tyranny which has enveloped the United States.

     Mr. Freedman knew what he was talking about because he had been an insider at the highest levels of Jewish organizations and Jewish machinations to gain power over our nation. Mr. Freedman was personally acquainted with Bernard Baruch, Samuel Untermyer, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Joseph Kennedy, and John F. Kennedy, and many more movers and shakers of our times.

     This speech was given before a patriotic audience in 1961 at the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C., on behalf of Conde McGinley's patriotic newspaper of that time, Common Sense. Though in some minor ways this wide-ranging and extemporaneous speech has become dated, Mr. Freedman's essential message to us -- his warning to the West -- is more urgent than ever before.

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More on the "King James Only" Bible position

 

A reader writes:

[WBSG Note: The "..." marks are in the original reader's E-mail, and do not denote editorial omissions as are generally then case with such markings in quoted text]

Nick,

May the LORD Jesus Christ whom came in the flesh bless you and all the work you are doing in his name!  You have helped me to open my eyes and SEE...and to break the 'traditions of men'!

I wanted to point out to you something that was pointed out to me....something I have been challenging the defenders of the NIV [New International Version Bible] (and the other satanic books being sold as 'the word of God') on...For, you are correct when you state that the KJV is the ONLY word of GOD!

[WBSG NOTE —  Below is the true verse of Daniel 3:25, which the reader is going to be comparing the legion of corrupt "newer Bible versions" to:

Daniel 3:23-26
23 And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.
24 Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellors, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said unto the king, True, O king.
25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like
the Son of God.
26 Then Nebuchadnezzar came near to the mouth of the burning fiery furnace, and spake, and said, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, ye servants of the most high God, come forth, and come hither. Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, came forth of the midst of the fire.   KJV
]

Check out the following.  Then ask the question...Just 'how many' Gods are there?...

Daniel 3:25
He said, "Look! I see four men walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the fourth looks like a son of the gods."  NIV [New International Version]

Daniel 3:25
He said, "Look! I see four men loosed and walking about in the midst of the fire without harm, and the appearance of the fourth is like a son of the gods!"  NASB [New American Standard Bible]

Daniel 3:25
"But look!" he said. "I see four men, walking around freely in the fire, completely unharmed! And the fourth man looks like a son of the gods!"  The Message

Daniel 3:25
He answered, Behold, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they are not hurt! And the form of the fourth is like a son of the godsAmplified Bible

Daniel 3:25
“Look!” Nebuchadnezzar shouted. “I see four men, unbound, walking around in the fire unharmed! And the fourth looks like a god!”  NLT [New Living Translation]

Daniel 3:25
He answered and said, "But I see four men unbound, walking in the midst of the fire, and they are not hurt; and the appearance of the fourth is like a son of the gods."  ESV [English Standard Version]

Daniel 3:25
He answered and hath said, `Lo, I am seeing four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the appearance of the fourth [is] like to a son of the gods.'  YLT [Young's Literal Translation]

Daniel 3:25
He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of GodKJV [King James Version]

I believe with all my soul that this is no mistake...for it is they " Who changed the truth of God into a lie".

Keep up the work of our Heavenly Father!  And may he bless you for all your hard (and courageous) workings!

- [Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxx]


Answer:

Hello, thank you for the kind words and the payers, they mean much to me.  As you have ably illustrated, the main focus of the omissions and adulterations in the newer Bible versions (every version AFTER the true King James Version Bible) are geared towards attacking the Deity of Jesus Christ.  Your Scripture (Dan 3:25) was a foreshadowing of Jesus Christ before His time.  Jesus, THE Son of God, THE "the only begotten Son of God" (Jn 3:16) was the forth man in the furnace which saved the three Hebrews.  How could Jesus have been here before His time, one might ask?:

John 1:1-15
1 In the beginning was the Word
[Jesus], and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same
[Jesus] was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word was made flesh
[Jesus], and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.  KJV

Revelation 1:1-22:13
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
[... 1:9]
9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice
[Jesus], as of a trumpet,
11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
[... 2:8]
8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;
[... 22:12]
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.  KJV

Exodus 3:14-15
14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.  KJV

John 8:54-59
54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am
[I AM].
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him
[because He was claiming to be God]: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.  KJV

    This, the same Jesus whom God by His Holy Spirit in the Gospel of John confirmed in His Holy Bible as being the only begotten (through Mother Mary without man's seed) Son of God.  We, you and I, male and female, are all sons of God; all the angels are called sons of God; but there is only one begotten Son of God, the man Jesus Christ.

John 3:16-18
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.  KJV

1 John 4:9
9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.  KJV

 

    As described in our study (Adulterations in the Newer Bible Versions (NIV, NASB...); Proof that the King James Bible (KJV) is the True Word of God), all the newer versions are based upon a corrupt manuscript stream that deviated from the manuscript stream that the King James Bible was translated from.  But that is only for the Greek text, for the New Testament text.  But you have shown that the damned new version Bible makers have also corrupted the Old Testament text in the newer "Bible" versions.  This is substantial, it is very important to observe; for, they have no corrupt manuscript to blame for the tampering with the Hebrew Old Testament text.  In other words, these self-damned men have purposely lied about what the text says and, sadly, so many well meaning Christians are using these "Bible" versions.  Satan is very smart, as are his minions:

Luke 16:8
8 And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.  KJV

    Below is the whole passage for context.  In it you will observe that Nebuchadnezzar witnessed a miracle, and because of it he made the Hebrew's religion legal in his realm:

Daniel 3:18-28
18 But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.
19 Then was Nebuchadnezzar full of fury, and the form of his visage was changed against Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego: therefore he spake, and commanded that they should heat the furnace one seven times more than it was wont to be heated.
20 And he commanded the most mighty men that were in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, and to cast them into the burning fiery furnace.
21 Then these men were bound in their coats, their hosen, and their hats, and their other garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.
22 Therefore because the king's commandment was urgent, and the furnace exceeding hot, the flame of the fire slew those men that took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego.
23 And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.
24 Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellors, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said unto the king, True, O king.
25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.
26 Then Nebuchadnezzar came near to the mouth of the burning fiery furnace, and spake, and said, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, ye servants of the most high God, come forth, and come hither. Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, came forth of the midst of the fire.
27 And the princes, governors, and captains, and the king's counsellors, being gathered together, saw these men, upon whose bodies the fire had no power, nor was an hair of their head singed, neither were their coats changed, nor the smell of fire had passed on them.
28 Then Nebuchadnezzar spake, and said, Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, who hath sent his angel, and delivered his servants that trusted in him, and have changed the king's word, and yielded their bodies, that they might not serve nor worship any god, except their own God.  KJV

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Is there unrighteousness with God?

 

A reader writes:

I am reading II Samuel where there is a famine in the land for three years and the Gibeonites, (that have been slaughtered by

Saul)  have appealed to God and when King David asks them what they want; they want 10 of Saul's offspring to die.

I really feel for Michal, Saul's daughter and Rizpath, Saul's concubine;  losing their sons  by hanging.

Probably the only family  that Rizpath had in the world and they were murdered.

Saul probably did not value his female family members and they had no infulence ( probably ) on his discisions to murder the Gibeonites.

Question: is this justice, really? Other innocent people pay for the crimes of another family member?

This does not hurt the quilty party whatsoever. ( Saul;  and anyway he's dead ! ) And please answer this:

2). 10 concubines; how is this not fornication or adultry ?

Pleazzzzzzzzzzzze don't say those were different times!!!

Thanks,

A Christian


Answer:

Hello, I won't "Pleazzzzzzzzzzzze" say that "those were different times" because God's Word is never ending.  And even Jesus stated:

Matthew 5:17-19
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.  KJV

    The answer question #1, "...is this justice, really?", is this:

Romans 11:33-36
33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?
35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?
36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.  KJV

    And also a warning from the Scriptures for those who endeavor to charge God with "unfairness":

Romans 9:10-23
10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath
[people, souls]  fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy
[people, souls], which he had afore prepared unto glory,  KJV

    And when you learn to respect God with a reverent fear, then He may choose to explain verses 22 and 23 above to your heart.  But you are nowhere near ready to believe God; therefore, all shall remain a mystery to your heart, because from the first you did not trust the Lord, nor, apparently, do you now yet fear Him.

    The answer to question #2, "...10 concubines; how is this not fornication or adultry?", is this: 

    Your not knowing what is and what is not adultery is causing you confusion.  Then, once confused, you "solve" the problem by charging God with error.  Please learn what Adultery is according to God's Bible, then go about assigning guilt and attributing contradiction:  Adultery is SOLELY and SPECIFICALLY predicated on the marital status of the female participant 

    So we see that the problem was not that God contradicted His own written Word (the Bible); but that rather, man failed to teach it accurately.  Some preachers think it good to add and take away from what God said and meant in the commandments and laws of the Bible.  But, for however well-meaning they may have been, in the end they cause God problems like the above reader's dilemma.  False would-be do-gooder preachers cause God to look contradictory and even hypocritical!  They shall answer for that one day.  It is a mighty and fearful responsibility to teach God's written Word, the Bible.  Many men take up the noble task quite haphazardly.  Men don't choose the vocation, God calls men to it.  Those who force their way in shall run right across and through the back door, right back out in the dark.  For, God begins His judgment at the altar (clergy first).

    Now perhaps people can see why it is never right to lie about God's written Word, it is never right to add to the Scriptures because "one feels that the people will take excessive license with freedoms."  The Catholic Church is an enormous offender in this regard: telling people that this or that is a sin when God didn't say it was.  For instance, nowhere in the Bible is drinking alcohol or smoking cigarettes a sin; yet, so many non-Christians and quasi-Christians believe that it is a sin.  The reason they errantly think that these are sins is because the churches, in their ignorance—or worse, in their adding to the Scriptures through false teaching—have told everybody that these are sins.

    So that in the Catholic Church you are a sinner for drinking beer, but you are a "good Catholic" for worshipping idols in the church.  Go figure!  Now, we know that idolatry is a sin because it in the Ten Commandments, which the Catholic Church is in extreme disobedience to; but, what will the popes and cardinals (and many non-Catholic Christian clergy) do with Jesus Christ?  After all, His first miracle on Earth was to turn water into wine at a wedding party.  And what about those neo-preachers who say that it "wasn't real wine" that Jesus made, but that it was grape juice?  They will go to any length, any stretch, to make God say what they want Him to say, not what He is really saying.  Further comment is superfluous.  Let's just prove Scripture by Scripture; or, let's let God's written Word prove God's spoken intent:

John 2:7-11
7 Jesus saith unto them, Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim.
8 And he saith unto them, Draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast. And they bare it.
9 When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine
[Grk. #3631 oinos], and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew;) the governor of the feast called the bridegroom,
10 And saith unto him,
Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine [the expensive and tasty wine is served first while men can still taste the difference]; and when men have well drunk [Grk. #3182 methusko], then that which is worse [then they put out the cheap wine when men are too drunk to tell the difference]: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.
11 This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.  KJV

wine: Greek word #3631 oinos (oy'-nos); a primary word (or perhaps of Hebrew origin [OT:3196]); "wine" (literally or figuratively):  KJV - wine.

OT:3196 [Old Testament Hebrew] yayin (yah'-yin); from an unused root meaning to effervesce; wine (as fermented); by implication, intoxication:  KJV - banqueting, wine, wine [-bibber].

have well drunk: Greek word #3182 methusko (meth-oos'-ko); a prolonged (transitive) form of NT:3184; to intoxicate:  KJV - be drunk (-en).

    So we see that the above wine spoken of, is a wine that made men drunk "have well drunk" (Jn 2:10b).  Below we have another Scripture with both these same words, in the which there is no room for misinterpretation:

Ephesians 5:18
18 And be not drunk
[Grk. #3182 methusko] with wine [Grk. #3631 oinos], wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;  KJV

    Peace to you in Christ Jesus.  And I would tread a little lighter with the God-blaming and God-accusing if I were you.  "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap." (Gal 6:7).

WBSG NOTE:  For honesty's sake and for full disclosure:  This author both smokes cigarettes and drinks alcoholic beverages; but, I assure you, that had no bearing on my above Scriptural interpretation.  Drinking alcohol in moderation is no sin, and smoking cigarettes is no sin.  And should "they" throw up the "your body is the temple of God" Scripture, ask them to read the verse in context with the rest of the passage, and they shall discover that it is speaking of sexual immorality (and figuratively, idolatry), not diet, alcohol, cigarettes, tattoos, piercings, biting your fingernails, failure to wash behind your ears, etc.  The "your body is the temple of God" Scripture is a "catch all" for those who can't find their positions mirrored in the Scriptures, whereby they can make God look to be in agreement with their own particular (and un-Biblical) pet-peeves; and it is one of the more misapplied Scriptures in the Bible.

1 Corinthians 6:15-20
15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.
16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh
[in marriage].
17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.  KJV

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Christians and self defense, should we sit back and expect God to do it all?

A reader writes:

Why does Christ tell his disciples to sell their cloak and go buy a sword?  My son thinks this means it is o.k. to carry a knife as a weapon and use it in self-defense if necessary.   And then why did Christ say two swords was enough and then later to Peter “That’s enough” when he cut off the ear of the servant of the high priest?  And then Christ healed the ear.  How do you reconcile all these things?  How do I help my son realize that Christ is his defense and that he does not need to carry a weapon to defend himself?

Thank you. 

Sincerely, 

[Xxxx X. Xxxxxx]


Answer:

Hello, may I answer your last question first?

    You said/asked:

"How do I help my son realize that Christ is his defense and that he does not need to carry a weapon to defend himself?"

    I can't help you with that because that is not the truth of the matter.  We are supposed to count on God for things that we cannot do, but we are supposed to do what we can do.  Could not I take your above argument and say "Why should I spread the Gospel, God is capable of spreading it Himself?"

    The laws of America provide for self-defense.  So it is not against the law, neither God's law nor man's law.  Now, I am not advocating young people running around with knives, but every adult ought to provide for his and his/her family's self defense.  (You never told me your son's age, many people have adult sons.)

    You use the common "Christ is my defense," and that is rightly true, but then you err by taking that to mean that we can be lazy and "leave everything to Jesus to do."  It is not God that seeks to render Christians helpless and disarmed, it is satan's minions who exploit the Scriptures to leave Christians vulnerable to criminals, rapists and robbers and murderers and thugs.

    If someone is trying to rape or kill you or your wife/daughter, then you have the right both under man's laws and God's laws to dispatch that wicked person to God (kill) where God shall then deal with them.

  The reality on the ground is that good Jesus Christ loving Christians do in fact get raped and murdered; however, another fact on the ground is that far fewer good Jesus Christ loving Christians get raped and murdered while they are armed.  And yes, God helps some; but as we see, not all.

Matthew 5:45
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.  KJV

    And the rest of your questions:

    You said/asked:

"Why does Christ tell his disciples to sell their cloak and go buy a sword?"

    The answer should be self-evident: so that the Christian may protect his person and his family from evil doers.

    You said/asked:

"My son thinks this means it is o.k. to carry a knife as a weapon and use it in self-defense if necessary. "

    If he is of an age where it is legal in your area to possess a knife, and if the length of the knife is legal—then your son is most correct.  But do inform him that the law draws a very thin line between self defense and aggression.  "Self defense" is not a valid excuse just because someone is insulting you.  And a measured response is also looked at by the law.  In other words, if a bully punches your son in the nose after insulting him in front of his girlfriend, and then your son pulls a knife and chases down the bully and stabs him to death—then you son shall be spending the next 15-20 years in State Prison for murder, and someone else shall be taking his girlfriend to the Prom, and he shall discover a side of "diversity" that he cannot now fathom.

    You said/asked:

"And then why did Christ say two swords was enough"

    Because that was enough weaponry for self defense in that particular place at that particular time.  Today, a nine-millimeter is an "enough" weapon.  But do it legally, following all the laws of your locality if at all possible.  And understand that if you go against the laws of your city, even though you are in accord with God's laws, you will still end up in jail.  Which most usually is better than ending up in a rape clinic or graveyard.  But do understand that your actions have consequences, and that courts are not very accommodating to the Christian Bible defense because this world hates Jesus Christ and God's Bible and God's Christians.  Don't give satan an opportunity to entangle you, Christian.

    You said/asked:

"...and then later to Peter “That’s enough” when he cut off the ear of the servant of the high priest?  And then Christ healed the ear."

    You notice that Jesus did not chastise Peter for doing something wrong, He simply healed the man's ear so that Peter would not be arrested.  Jesus had work for Peter to do which Peter could not do if he was in jail or on a cross.  Christians, think about that before you take irreversible "self-defense actions."  You may be right, but you also may not get a fair trial, as Peter no doubt would not have had a fair day in court.  Just because you can kill an assailant doesn't mean that you have to.  The Judaic-controlled court systems of America are not very friendly to what they consider "vigilante action," most especially Christian self-defensers.

    In the book of Revelation, which speaks of the endtimes which we are racing into presently, it states:

Revelation 13:8-11
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him
[the first beast of Rev 13—the International Judaic-run world], whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
11 And I beheld another beast
[antichrist/satan] coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.  KJV

    You will notice that God didn't say that he was angry with them for fighting, but just that if they resist they can expect to be dealt with by satan's henchmen.  However, those who accept captivity shall go into captivity of antichrist, which means they will swear allegiance to him and bring upon themselves the wrath of God.  I'd rather die than worship satan (antichrist).  Each Christian must make his/her own decision when that time comes, should our Lord choose to allow us to be subjected to difficulties during it.

    And I must stress that if your child is a minor: that most states have more restrictive laws regarding minors and weapons, because minor children are not always capable of making sound decisions and are less likely to give measured responses to aggression.

    You said/asked:

"How do you reconcile all these things? "

    By studying each Scripture in context and then comparing them as a whole.  Your problem, if I may say it, is that you have been poisoned by false pacifist preachers who would disarm God's Christians and leave them vulnerable to victimization.  You even have preachers who don't know their Bible protesting Capital Punishment.  That shall be most helpful to the International Judaics during the Great Tribulation when they are rounding up Christians for conversion (or execution) to their antichrist.  You must understand that without the sword and the gun there would be no such religion as Christianity today—we would all be hell-bound Muslims.  Remember the much maligned "Crusades," well, had the Christians not won there would not be a Christian religion on this planet today—that's why God gave the Christians the victory (yet you have deceived Christians today that are ashamed of the "Crusades"!).  And today, Judaics are behind all gun confiscation legislation.  Why is that?  It is because they want Christians ripe for the plucking when the time comes.  The greatest enemy to the antichrists are well armed Christians.

     Not the answer that you expected, huh?  Not at all surprising nowadays, what with the endemic failure of the Christian clergy and churches.  But it is Biblical. Now what will you do?  Well, you could go to most any other Christian ministry with your question and have them tell you to lay down and go to sleep.  But do insist that they satisfactorily answer regarding your above excellent Scriptural examples of armed Christians.

    Peace to you in Christ Jesus.
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More on Ezekiel's Kingdom not being the Millennium of Revelation 20

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A reader writes:

Here is a TON of Scriptures verifying every word of Ezekiel 43-44.  Does this convince you?  You said if someone provided scriptural proof that you would change your belief on the matter (boy do you regret saying that or what?)  You also said (on your website) search all you want, you won't find proof that Ezekiel 43&44 will happen as written.  Well, I searched and here it is!!!

[WBSG NOTE:  I do not where the reader copy & pasted the below article from, so we cannot cite the source.]

The Millennium 
 

Isa 2:2
2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

Isa 2:3

3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.


Revelation 20:6
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and
shall reign with him a 1000 years.

Heb 8:5
5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things
according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.


All of these scriptures speak, quite simply, of an age when God's people rule the earth with Christ for 1000 years.

During  the Millennium it is blatantly obvious that Christ will be ruling with a Rod of Iron.

We see evidence of WHO will be there (All of Israel, & the Gentiles), WHAT they will be doing (SEEKING the FATHER).  WHERE will Israel be? (Jerusalem)

We see the situation get turned on its head:

  • Captives ruling the Oppressors
  • Judgment of the poor
  • Reprove for the meek
  • Smiting with the rod of His mouth.
  • The wicked are slayed with His Breath

 

 

WHAT will the Earth be filled with in the Millennium?

Isaiah 11:9
9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

WATERS = knowledge

List for me what knowledge is necessary from Isaiah 11:2:

  • the spirit of wisdom and understanding,

  • the spirit of counsel and might,

  • the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD

Isaiah 11:2
2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;

Now the Captives will be RULING in Righteousness with WISDOM and UNDERSTANDING to which the GENTILES SEEK.

When we arrive to Ezekiel's picture of the Millennium, already the foundation is laid for what is occurring. 

Ezekiel confirms the PATTERN

Hebrews 8:5;9:9 "a shadow ... a figure"


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Answer:

Hello.  I appreciate your trying to search the Scriptures out for your answer.  That is exactly what we are supposed to do.  However, what you have